Ok guys, vent your frustration, which code is better and why.

To me, both sets of players are a bunch of pissheads with no skill compared to that of soccer players.

The actual game itself, both very physical, but the kreas facto goes to league, and in saying that, Rubgy Union players are the biggest meatheads running around out of the 4 codes.

AFL is rougher(FACT!)
AFL is Victorian(VFL)
AFL IS A FAR BETTER SPORT!(skill, rules etc)
Afl is the more proffesional

ok ive got the ball rolling

Rougher? How.

Victorian? Then why is it called AFL, and why havent any teams from Victoria won the Flag in the last 7/8 years?

Better as in?

Professional? Both administrations from both codes are a total joke.

Rougher? I will try find it again, it was a study in to what sport causes the most injuries, serious injuries, AFL was on top

Victorian? well the sport was created in Victoria and was the VFL for over 90 years, untill they wanted a national comp, this fucking with the salery cap, giving interstate teams an unfair advantage.

Better? look at the sports, Aussie rules is a FAR better sport, more action, not as narrow and one dimentional, more skill involved

ps its gonna be a matter of minutes untill someone comes in here and goes L0LoL NrL is WaYyyY bettaH tan gAyFL!!!

Add to the fact that rape cases, fingering of assholes and absolute stupidity are far more rampant in Rugby League than AFL. VFL coming out of the 80's is the best football you're gona see in Australia, ever. Rugby will never come close to that, nor does it even come close to the watered down AFL we see today. VFL is still exciting and at least real football has some culture and class to it. The two best and biggest clubs of any rugby/football team are Carlton and Essendon, and nothing will change that

So according to you, is then netball a 'rougher' sport because it has a high injury rate? So boxing is a less rough sport due to less injuries caused than both league and aussie rules?

Comes down to a definition on what 'rough' actually is, is it injuries caused, or is it the amount of body contact?

Look at how much faster afl is, look at the way the tackles are, the bumps compared to Rugby where the players are getting tackled to the ground while goiong slower at jogging pace most of the time

Rightio, where tackles below the knee and above the shoulder are banned, bumps? Try running into 2 120kg meatheads who in turn bury you into the ground, and do that for 80 mins.

Faster yes, but the tackling is much tougher and harder in league than Afl.

Didn't used to be

Anyway, I posted this in reply to the other thread but it's relevant here to prove how scum rugby players are

2006

# Brett Seymour was accused of head-butting a woman on the dance floor during a drinking session at Brisbane's Regatta Hotel no criminal charges were laid after police investigation found insufficient evidence

# Tevita Latu punched a 19-year-old woman in the face leaving her bloodied with a broken nose at a service station in Cronulla. He was stood down from Cronulla Sharks, de-registered by the NRL and may no longer play professionally in Australia

2007

# Anthony Watmough was accused of violence towards his girlfriend. In court, she alleged that Watmough threw metal coins at her, attacked her with a chair, and jammed her in between a sliding door

# Willie Mason refused an interview with 2GB reporter Michelle Keighran and then proceeded to sing loud rap songs near her while she conducted several other interviews at Sydney Airport. Keighran later claimed she felt belittled and embarrassed and was reduced to tears over the incident. <-- WHAT THE FUCK hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

# Craig Trindall was charged with maliciously inflicting grievous bodily harm after allegedly bashing a woman in the face with a childrens' blackboard. The woman suffered a broken nose, shattered eye socket and had timber splinters embedded near her brain

# Craig Gower inebriated with alcohol at a Kings Cross cocktail bar, allegedly tried to kiss one man before biting him on the neck and sparking a brawl, and is accused of assaulting another man

# Anthony Laffranchi was charged with the sexual assault of a 26-year-old woman. Shortly before the alleged rape took place, Laffranchi and a group of Wests Tigers players had partaken in a drinking session at the Sapphire nightclub in Kings Cross as part of the team's 'Mad Monday' end-of-season celebrations. After regaining consciousness, the woman alleged she was the victim of a date rape drug. A Wests Tigers player claimed the woman came back "quite willingly" to the party at Five Dock and he thought it was "all systems go".

I purposely left out all the assault charges against other men and drink driving/drug use cases, I didn't think that was fair because apparently footballers are just as bad with that stuff

Yet, I dont see one point that goes...... Mr X was charged and proven guilty of rape. Most cases above say alledged, not proven. As for Willie Mason, he is a malaka.

Well, at least League players dont go around fucking thier best man's wife.

Might have to dig up the same stories about AFL players, I think im up for it 2night after a smoko.

So cheating on your wife is worse then beating your wife, headbutting random women and trying to bash other blokes cos they wouldn't kiss you haha. Man, half these cases don't end up in jail sentences because they are settled out of court for cash to avoid bad publicity for the clubs and players

[quote]# Willie Mason refused an interview with 2GB reporter Michelle Keighran and then proceeded to sing loud rap songs near her while she conducted several other interviews at Sydney Airport. Keighran later claimed she felt belittled and embarrassed and was reduced to tears over the incident. <-- WHAT THE FUCK hahahahhahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Niko how duz that make a footballer a scum can u spot out exactly what he did wrong is refusing an interview and singing so he sang a few rap songs while she conducted interviews oh boo hoo pull out the fuken violins.

You call AFL tuff huh whats the tuffest thing they have 2 do is shoulder each other or go up for a mark if u watch nrl our full backs maybe just maybe they could out jump some of the afl players.

Try running into 3 blokes at full speed or trying 2 sidestep dummy and put a grubber kick thru and you sit here and tell me that the afl is better than nrl(skills,rules etc).

The afl players ar so tuff that they have to play there games in quarters to let the little bitches have a rest.

An eg of how tuff nrl players are well the rep players anyways are they have to play 3 games of league in two weeks which duz takes a toll on players.Also when teams play monday nite then have to back up on a fri nite game.

Here goes.

Former Brisbane captain and Brownlow medalist Michael Voss will face one count of unlawful assault.

Current Brisbane player and Brownlow medalist Simon Black will face charges of recklessly causing injury and assault by kicking.

St Kilda player Fraser Gehrig will face one count of unlawful assault.

Stephen Lawrence, former Brisbane and St Kilda player, will face one charges of intentionally causing injury, recklessly causing injury and two counts of unlawful assault.

Former AFL player Adam Heuskes denied allegations he was involved in two separate rapes, his lawyer said today.

ABC television's Four Corners program aired allegations last night by an unnamed Australian woman that Heuskes raped her in a London hotel room in 1999, during an end-of-season trip with the Brisbane Lions.

Do these names ring a bell? Stephen Milne and Leigh Montagna?

And this from Jeff Farmer?

WA police will allege Farmer was approached by a security officer at the [Paramount] club around 11.30pm on Saturday night, after trying to enter the nightclub through an exit door.

Farmer allegedly became aggressive and, as he was removed, attempted to punch the bouncer over some security barriers.

The former Melbourne Demon is then said to have returned, entering the club through the exit door and after being accosted by the security guard who had originally evicted him, punched him in the face.

Several security guards had to restrain Farmer as police were called, who arrested him and laid a charge of common assault.

Maybe Danile Kerr beating up teenagers? Daniel Kerr was scheduled to appear in Perth's Magistrate Courts tomorrow (Tuesday) over an earlier matter in which he was alleged to have been involved with a teenager copping a broken nose and missing teeth. Apparently, the prospect of an imminent court appearance wasn't enough to check his behaviour over the weekend.

And this one, maybe he thought he was Eric Cantona?

PORT Adelaide AFL ruckman Dean Brogan will appear in court in March to finalise an assault charge involving an opposing club's supporter.Brogan is charged with assaulting an Adelaide Crows fan at Adelaide Airport on June 3 last year as he and his Port teammates prepared to board a flight to Melbourne for an AFL match.

Read the transcript to this story about AFL Rape Allegations - 19 March 2004

http://netk.net.au/Media/2004-03-19-RapeAllegations.asp

And the Tarrant/Johnson incident:
It is understood Tarrant and Johnson had been at a 21st birthday party before going on to the Ocean Blue nightclub at Station Pier.

Club sources said that at about 3.30am, Tarrant had been waiting for more than half an hour for a taxi when he called to a couple of men getting in a car to ask for a lift. An argument broke out, which soon escalated into a fight between the full-forward and the men from the car. Bystanders also became involved and it is understood someone ran upstairs into the bar to alert Johnson that Tarrant was in a fight. Johnson and a friend, who does not play in the AFL, ran outside and became involved in the brawl.(The Age, 3/8/2006)

but the best part is, AFL players have a deal with Yellow Taxis:

We think the public interest is best served by getting these role models off the street and into cabs quickly rather than them standing around getting baited and approached. (The Herald-Sun, 8/4/2005)

Not very smart from the the AFL boys.

How about these blokes?

Adelaide Crows midfielder Simon Goodwin, Melbourne's Daniel Ward, Swans youngster Keiren Jack and Kangaroos ruckman David Hale have been named as the four players being investigated by the AFL for betting on senior matches in the 2006 season. (ABC Online, 17/2/2007)

Read my reply. It also includes how AFL players paid to keep a rape case quite.

"I purposely left out all the assault charges against other men and drink driving/drug use cases, I didn't think that was fair because apparently footballers are just as bad with that stuff"

Shall I include them then?

As you can see, I included some for certain reasons, ie, the Tarrant Taxi one, as well as the teenager bashing by Kerr. Not one drink driving case was included. Bashing a fan at an airport i was trying set up as a Cantona case. The rest, well, we have dickheads betting at Tabcorp, Stephen Milne and Leigh Montagna didnt bash anyone, but maybe got a bit kinky , same with Heuskes. Jeff farmer and the trio of Black, Voss and mullet man Fraser Gehrig are the only cases of men beating up men.

As for Anthony Laffranchi and the date drug incident, there are heaps of stories about AFL players and date drugs, you managed to find one, when I used google to find the same for AFL players, a hole plethora of cases opened up.

Well, when I see Warwick Capper and Co running around with his 6 sizes too small shorts, no wonder he is a meat and potatoes man, as Billi Birmingham says.

When AFL matches were attracting over 100 000 people, Rugbly league was still being played in horafia, still to this day the attendance different is HUGE with these sports, we use attendance in Football talk, why not use it in this, NRL is small compared to AFL

Because in Sunny Sydney, there is more than league to watch, and with better weather, there is a large selection of outdoor activities to do.

In saying that, I also think the NRL administration is a joke.

Sunny Sydney where it takes 5 hours to go from one side of the city to the other because the streets intersect at diagonals, the pollution blocks out any vitamins you could get from the sun and you can't walk down the street for fear of being attacked by some insane minority that you barbarians have pissed off. Melbourne has a lot more to do than just go to AFL, our clubbing is 10 times better and our cafe scene also shits all over yours. We may not have a red light district as prominent as yours but we also have better quality soccer and far more big tournaments (Grand Prix, Australian Open etc.) than Sydney.

All the big sporting events that happen in Australia, happen in Melbourne.

Melbourne = Sporting capital of Australia & probably world. Sydney was only 44 years too late for the Olympics

JJ's going off. re u should be in the government debating
Re Paokara jus cos u reckon Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia wats that got to do with wat sport is better? plus NRL players get jus as much as AFL players. Crowds might be ur only good point but still u dnt get very big crowds at some AFL games either. My argument remains the same. AFL and NRL players are the same as each other whether it be cheating on ur wife, drug scandals etc etc they're all the same.

Every Australian city is jealous of Melbourne, there's no need to be bitter

Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia, i am studying tourism management, we have covered this before in lectures.

As for this debate i shall only say that i like AFL better, Rugby is boring, but i prefer soccer more.

From a womans point of view, i don't know if the others will agree with me, but the AFL players are hotter.

niko you gota be fuken kidding me right australian cities jealous of melbourne plz enlighten me with what we are jealous about cause i have been to melb plenty of times and there is nothing to be jealous about so get off your fuken high horse.

Amen!

AFL attracts enormous crowds (bar a few clubs like Hawks, Roos and Bulldogs who the AFL admin are fucking around by making them play in Tassie/Gold Coast/Darwin/Canberra).

2006 Grand Final attendance figures for both codes:
NRL 79,609 @ Stadium Australia
AFL 97,431 @ Melbourne Cricket Ground

A convincingly bigger crowd for AFL. In fact the SMALLEST crowd in the entire finals series was 42,208 for the Adelaide v Fremantle game at AAMI Stadium.

The smallest crowds in the NRL 2006 finals were 14,628 (Bulldogs v Canberra) and 15,690 (Melbourne v Paramatta). Some of the NRL venues are terrible, ie Olympic Park. I wouldn't take my dog to piss on that ground let alone watch a game there.

As for criminal charges with players... well they're sportspeople what do you expect? NFL had OJ Simpson. NBA has Kobe Bryant (and lets not forget the numerous shootings/deaths involving NBA players over the years). Cricket has match fixing all the time, none as big as Hansie Cronje... meanwhile AFL and NRL just has a bunch of drunken fools who punch other guys in clubs or go drink-driving. Hestikame.

NRL bores me most of the time, it isn't as action packed as AFL. Having said that, over the past few years there have been some terrible games of AFL with some of the coaching strategies implemented (ie the time wasting/running down the clock, flooding the backline etc).

The AFL admin have become HUGE corporate whores since the early 90s (since the inclusion of the Crows)... although NRL are just as bad. Now they've stooped to a new low by signing deals with Telstra (both AFL and NRL). Telstra have ruined both codes with their malakia contracts restricting fan-sites from showing highlight clips on their sites. Meanwhile YouTube gets away with murder, but the die-hard fans and paid up members have to endure the worst experience of their lives in trying to get the NRL and AFL websites to actually work. Suck my dick Telstra, AFL and NRL!

As for Melbourne being the sporting capital of australia... it's true isn't it?

Formula One Grand Prix
Australian Open Tennis (one of the 4 grand slams IN THE WORLD)
AFL Grand Final (always has attracted a farrrrrr greater crowd than NRL, a far greater spectacle)
We have the greatest sporting facilities and stadiums too: The renovated MCG is the pride of Australia, National Tennis Centre (Rod Laver and Vodafone Arena), Glasshouse for basketball, the F1 track has improved over the past decade... we don't have the best facilities for EVERY sport, Bells Beach Surf Classic probably isn't as good as the Gold Coast's Ripcurl Pro, but again, it is one of 11 venues in the world to host a surf championship event.

The rest of australia has umm i dunno, Stadium Australia. Is that it?

the 6 NRL games for the weekend and the attendance figures...
Souths 14 Penrith 4 5053
Canberra 38 Parramatta 10 11232
Sydney Roosters 64 Nth Qld 30 4186
Newcastle 14 Wests Tigers 33 13609
New Zealand 2 Melbourne 4 6209
St George Ill 16 Cronulla 20 12455

AFL attendances
Essendon v West Coast 48,913
Hawthorn v Sydney 48,398
Carlton v Port Power 29,678
Brisbane v Bulldogs 29,873
Fremantle v Richmond 37,177
Adelaide v Geelong 43,108
St Kilda v Kangaroos 34,569
Melbourne v Collingwood 70,660


NRL fans just don't give a fuck anymore.

What are you on about? Melbourne is awesome. I have been there twice, both times did completely different things and BOTH times I left wanting to stay longer because I still had other things I wanted to do.

I have been to Sydney once, stayed for 2 weeks and was bored off my behind!

As for Brisbane.... It is worse (yes WORSE) than holidaying in Darwin, unfortunately I have family there and have to go every so often.


The Bulldogs and Freo are in Darwin this weekend
I know fanatics that wont even be attending that one

Melbourne by be "the sporting capital of australia" but i can find 50 million things better to do then watch any sports game!! Even the australian open is so boring now cause for the next 5 years federer will be winning it as he is undefeatable even though safin beat him a few years ago by fluke!! Ok cause im a formula 1 addict thats probably the only time i watch the whole weekend of that sport!! But dont forget how many crucial sporting moments sydney has held for e.g. Australia beat uruaguay to make it into the world cup!! And also how come Australia is the only team to play AFL and no other country?? How could we say AFL is such a gd sport if we cant compete with other countries?? In Australia every sport has an AUSTRALIAN team except for AFL cause no other country plays it!! Must be so fascinating if only Australia plays it!! Yes i support the swans but i dont sit there bragging oh this sport is better then this one!! Each to their own i say!! And btw who cares if melbourne has better clubbing scenes(cse in sydney we have more clubs then melbourne)?? Or more people go for cafes (cause theyre all wogs and dont see whats so fascinating about goin for coffee)?? And seriously who cares if melbourne is better then sydney?? If that was the case why do more tourists want to visit sydney then melbourne?? Anyways lets end this by saying each to their own!! If u like AFL u like AFL if u like NRL u like NRL If u like Sydney u like Sydney u like Melbourne u like Melbourne sheesh whats the big deal?? Each to their own just cause you dont like something doesnt mean other people have to hait it as well!! End of discussion

54 thousand at the Dome last night to see Carlton get flogged by 100 points, THAT WILL BE MORE THEN ALL THE NRL GAMES THIS WEEK PUT TOGETHER!

Name another one


So unless every single country in the world plays a particular sport, we can't compare it with another one. I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about but what I DO know is that you're wrong


I'm going to try and ignore your grade 3 English and just sum it up in a few sentences.

This topic was made for discussion about a particular issue, your visionary apathy isn't going to stop anyone from talking about something they want to talk about. If you don't care about who's better then why are you defending Sydney's poor night life and social scene? If you don't care then why are you highlighting the fact that Sydney has had one significant sporting event, ever? As for tourism, Sydney is obviously a bigger city, it's also older and has more gay attractions that idiot tourists like to see such as the opera house or that bridge.

We have awesome claims to fame like the MCG, tallest building in Australia, tallest residential building in the world and inventing our own sport that's now played by a whole continent as well as around the world. We have the Grand Prix, we've had the Olympics, Commonwealth Games, a Grand Slam Open, we've staged the first ever Cricket test match, a world renowned horse race in the Melbourne Cup, the Boxing Day test as well as the Stawell's gift... the list goes on and on


Does that say enough?

niko is my favourite poster in GP

"visionary apathy"... love it, lol. selective reading, very common amongst wogs with tiny brains and big mouths.

Did I not read correctly read or did you just take a shot at me?

i think it's a compliment Niko

LOL@tallest building when centre point tower is the tallest building in Australia!! Calling the harbour bridge and opera house gay??? U must be gay!! Yes i agree Sydeny has more older buildings which makes it more unique and Syney has more heritage listed sites then melbourne!! Its a proven fact!! Anyways dunno how ur social life is better though when sydney has more people to talk to and get along with better!! I prefer getting along with people from many different countries and learning about their culture etc etc rather then sticking to wogs all the time!! Name another 1?? The SCG has the original buildings of when it was built and is the most unique cricket ground. And u name a CRUCIAL event that melbourne has held that has done good for Australia imstead of events that happen every year or every couple of years!! And let me assure you that Sydney has the biggest event every year which is the Easter Show. It attracts more than any sport attracts. Anyways back to NRL vs AFL.....AFL is a much more fast paced game but NRL is more physical. I prefer NRL over AFL even though i watch both because i just find NRL more entertaining. But thats only my opinion.

By the logic here, population equates to superiority.
Well then, Shanghai is better than Sydney and Melbourne combined.

As to sport. Someone brought up that AFL is only played in Australia.
Again, good logic.

Netball is the 3rd most played sport in the world. Therefore it must be the 3rd best, would that individual concede that point?

FYI, most countries that play Cricket and Rugby had it FORCED upon them by British colonialism, no one in the right mind would choose to play those shitty games by their free will.

Oh sorry, I meant tallest building in Australia with a use. Centrewack tower is a big observation tower is it not? It's so you can actually witness an arab gang shooting without risking getting hit in the crossfire


Of course, calling two buildings crap must mean that I'm homosexual


Wow, did you just rewrite what I said and manage to make it retarded? So let me get this right. For arguments sake, let's say that three absolutely shithouse shows come out called Survivor, Survivor II and Survivor III. You're saying that because Survivor II is older than Survivor III, that it is "more unique". Firstly, you can't be MORE unique in the same way that you can't be MORE dead. Unique means 'one of a kind', you can't be MORE 'one of a kind'. LEARN ENGLISH


Is that your way of trying to say that Sydney people WELCOME the massive influx of Arabs and islanders that the vast majority of you hate?


You still haven't named any crucial events that Sydney has staged



It's a pretty stock standard cricket ground man, I don't know what you're talking about. If it were so special then it would be spoken of in the same regard as Lords or the MCG... but it isn't



I hate to break it to you but World Cup Qualifiers in soccer also happen every couple of years.


Oh yeah man, firstly let me just tell you that as far as big events go, you can't compare the Sydney Easter show with the Grand Prix, Olympic Games or Commonwealth games.

Secondly, this year on the 100th anniversary of this show, it attracted 900,000 people over two weeks. Fourteen days, roughly 65,000 per day. In round 11 this year, AFL attracted 342,376 over one weekend

Sorry that you're wrong

I complimented you niko, u dickhole... but i could have been clearer i guess. meh.

This topic is going nowhere until somebody can really support NRL's case a little more beyond saying "i enjoy watching it more than i enjoy watching AFL". Please!

A proper debate anyone? No not you Wogboy, you've embarrassed Sydney enough already... furthermore this debate is about AFL vs NRL, not Melbourne vs Sydney. Get it? So blow easter parades and tall towers up your arse.

Its funny how ive "embarassed" Sydney!! Its still the tallest building no matter what you say!! Crap buildings?? I like to see you build something better if theyre so "crap"!! Exactly my point, there are more unique building in Sydney then Melbourne. Also as i said before more heritage listed sites than melbourne!! I dont hate arabs or islanders and i never said i did. If i did quote me!! I hate all Boxheads and most Turks but thats a total different topic!! Stock standard? U need glasses!! And if you think the MCG is so talked about prove it?? They happen every couple of years but it was a CRUCIAL event for Australia as they hadnt made it to the world cup in how long? not sure how long it was!! Last Olympic games were held is Sydney in 2000!! Another crucial event for Sydney theres another 1!! 65 000 x 7=455 000 which is greater than what the AFL attracted in round 11 which was 342,376!! The easter show attracted more people then what the AFL attracte in 1 week!! Noone chooses to play those games?? Oh please you tell the Nea Zealanders or the Tongans that and lets see what they have to say!! And also dunno about melbourner but here is Sydney the NRL is a more talked about sport then the AFL even though the crowed attendances do not compare!! I have not come across 1 person who has said to me did u watch the swans game?? Or do u support the swans?? Its more like did u watch the dogs, roosters, dragons whatever it is or who do u support in footy!! Also when the state of origin comes around everyone talks about it no matter where you go!! Dunno how it is in melbourne though!!

YEah but your day easter show is yearly, where that was 1 ordinary week in the AFL, 2 days for that matter.

Back on topic, whilst the AFL has managed to have its traditional teams in the competition from when it was formed(aside from when it went national, and fitzroy folded), Teams from the nrl are constantly changing there name relocating (Manly ,Cronulla, West tigers, St George etc)

Also in the NRL you have a number of Failed franchise teams, that you dont have in the AFL(South Queenstand, the former gold coast team, Adelaide rams, Western reds etc..) in other words its a brothel.

The old Melbourne vs. Sydney conflict has hidden itself in an Aussie Rules v Rugby League.

All I can say is that I like both NRL and AFL..why because I like sports no matter who has the bigger crowds or who has the most supporters I just like to see competitive sporting action

wogboy i don't understand what the 65000 x 7 = 450000 statistic is referring to? the olympic games attract far bigger crowds than that. Day 8 of the 2000 olympics attracted over 400,000. Where does the 65000 come from?

anyway, fact is that NRL will never be as 'popular' as AFL. The NRL (then NSWRL) began in 1908, and the AFL (then VFL) kicked off in 1897. So both leagues are similar in age (unless you want to argue that the AFL has 11 extra years under its belt... but you'll still find that eleven years ago (in '96) the AFL was attracting 30,816 fans per game on average, and our grand final had 93,102.

Fuck... before they implemented the "capacity crowd" rule, the old VFL games were always attracting crowds of 100,000+. In 1970 there were 2 semi finals, one prelim final and a grand final and the crowds were: 104,239 112,838 108,215 and 121,696 respectively. Whereas for NRL, finals attendance records peaked in 1963 with an average of just over 52,000 fans per game.

SO BASICALLY based on "popularity" and the whole "i like this sport better" argument. AFL has more fans, so AFL wins, yeah?

When I have been to Sydney and read your newspapers there I found that you have to flick at least 10 pages back into the paper before reading about AFL... same goes here though. NRL is something we see highlights of on Sports Tonight, and hardly gets a mention in the newspapers. NRL Footy Show starts after midnight and the only live games we get are State Of Origin and the NRL Grand Final (which the Storm will probably win this year after they choked last year).

A-League is probably more talked about than NRL here. I've encountered a lot more Victory fans than I have Storm fans.

Gee, the NRL fans in here put up a real fight...

Paokara even if nrl fans in here do or do not put up a fight at the end of the day it all comes down to personal preference whether or not one code is better than the other.
My personal choice is nrl die hard fan whether its rain,hail or shine im there to support my team "waiting for smartass remark from jj and anybody else".
At the end of the day nrl will never have the crowds that afl have dont know what the answer to that is and dont really care,at the end of the day you are a fan of your code because you love the game and the passion for it not because it has a bigger crowd or its more popular in your state than any other code.

good answer

good to see some passion

all sporting teams need die-hard fans... especially nowadays where nrl and afl have become ruthless corporate whores, doing anything to make a quick buck. if you blink and forget to purchase a membership, your team might go down the shitter or merge/relocate to the other side of the country.