Have you ever seen a U.F.O or any one you know who has seen one?

Let's discuss this controversel subject with your thought on this topic.

Right now there is a massive media frenzy about UFOs as well as NASA claiming to have found evidence of life on mars. Movies like independence day and TV shows such as Dark Skies are spreading the message that Aliens are hostile and will stop at nothing to in order to conquer us all. Timed to go with this propaganda blitz is the Roswell Anniversary. With Roswell they are trying to convince us that an alien ship crashed landed in the Nevada desert killing all the aliens aboard. Myth has it that the alien bodies have been kept under lock and key by the American government. Through Roswell, the government is trying to make it appear that they have a captured alien UFO. If you study the CIA and how they operate, you will soon discover how very good they are at creating myths.

So why the myth that the government is hiding the fact that they have a captured UFO? Well it's for two reasons. One is to convince people that there really is life out there. The other reason is that when all of a sudden we see all these UFOs hovering over the city to scare us in to a New World Order, other UFOs (our UFOs) will suddenly appear in the skies to fight in a mock battle.

So how will the American government explain the sudden emergence of this "new" UFO technology that comes out of nowhere? They will say, "Yes folks. The Roswell incident was true. It's also true that we have been "back-engineering" a captured craft in area Area 51. The crafts that you see with the American flags painted on them belong to us and from the Area 51 development centre. This will act as a perfect explanation as to why all of a sudden we have our own UFOs to fight back with. This phony war will be a sure propaganda victory a New World Order Dictator. According to the Bible, it says, "...and they worshipped the beast; and they worshipped the beast, saying, "Who is like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?...And authority was given him over every tribe, tongue, and nation. And all who dwell on the earth will worship him..." Revelation 13:5 NKJ

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation." David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, (a United Nations World government group)

I ask you this, if the "other" life forms in this universe has the capability, and the knowlodge to "fly" (and i use the term fly very lightly) to our solar system, dont you also think they would have the ability to hide themselves from us, and if they did want to show themsleves to us, would you think that communication is the logical step?

sorry guys thats me doing the crop circles with my lawn mower i've got nothing else better to do sorry

dont know if you have seen this but give yourself about an hour and 55 mins then click this and watch it carefully....
click on play video it opens in windows media player
http://uk.search.yahoo.com/video/view?&h=2...70.8MB&dur=6950

then can anyone explain this anolomy? on mars.

http://www.metaresearch.org/solar%20system...files/proof.asp

http://www.mt.net/~watcher/mars.html

i can explain this anolomy that , the ancient egyptains actually built there structures and wonders to the stars in the sky , some people say super beans came from out of space and actually built these pyramids how could they move 1 tonne stones of sand stone across deserts to there location , some people say they used logs and shifted them across but i still don't believe it.

i do believe theres something out of space living but i don't think something as aliens or anything humanistic like that lives out there , i'd say organisms that live in the polar ice caps of mars are actually small particles of life but you could manipulate these over thousands of years and i could say there could be life on mars but the atmosphere is very unlikley to be lived upon because of the fact of its vast weather changes to heat up very quickly and then goes cold very quickly.

it would be day and night on mars longer hours and there would be longer days if you lived on mars.

I believe UFOS exist...

i also believe that the pilots are of Hellenic origin....

no 1 wog what if we were to go back? would we be going back home? i mean there has ben speculation what we are looking may be finger prints of our ancestors. And we want to colonise mars funny that, so my question is will we one day be saying hey look at those strange anolomies on that planet we once called earth and have forgot through milleniums, imagine that.

Life is stranger then fiction!

I beleive in UFO's and YESSS I have seen one .... no joke

October 1987

It scared the living crapppp out of me, but yes It was a real life flying saucerrrrrrrrrrrrr

I have a friend who I am trying to track down as well as my parents and sister as witnesses we were all there together spooooooooooooooooooooooked OUT.

I saw a UFO once, followed by lots and lots of ALIENS.... But um cant really go into depth of what state i was in to see these things lol, but at the time all aeroplanes were mistaken for ufo's and humans for aliens lol... need i say more?

Hey guys ive heard that many scientist have seen UFO's and so have many people. But does any one know what aliens look like? Aliens could be humans as far as im concerned. I believe that there are other galaxies and life does exist on them. But i want to know this? If life does exist on another galaxy how can their UFO's reach the earth? Wouldnt they run out of whatever source they use for fuel? Well obviously no one has found any aliens in our galaxy so that means theyre coming from another galaxy doesnt it? Well there is no galaxy near our galaxy. So where are these aliens coming from if scientists have seen aliens. And if the UFO had crashed i would like a description of what the aliens look like and what source of fuel the aliens use to reach earth. And if aliens have reached earth how come they don't come in a group and land? See there are many questions to be asked. So technically i dont believe that aliens exist and its all american propaganda. Until scientist can answer those questions i will never believe aliens exist.

Well there was an alien living next door to me. Well I think he was an alien, he had a funny shaped head, sort of like an egg and big googly eyes. The colour of his skin was a strange whitish sort of colour covered with little red lines especially around his very bulbous nose and the googly eyes were always red, sort of blood shot and he also had a very strange odour, he reeked. He used to walk funny too, sort of sliding and stooped sometimes almost crawling.

Well either that or he was an alcoholic.

unidentified flying objects? sure. iv seen heaps of them. those like those little moving stars at night that u dont know what they really are? or those birds so far up u can tell there birds? even i can be an unidentified flying object if i jump off some tall building. they wont know what i am till i get closer...

Its hard to believe that they really exist but everyone usually has to see it for themselves to really believe it. everyone needs a little proof

stay off non-prescription drugs ppl, please.

Aliens exists for sure.... They are using some kind of GATE to move fast from a Galaxy to another... Ainstain Theories....

i saw a ufo but nobody believed me

Here are some great links!!:

http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/ancient_aliens.html
go to page 4- look half way down the page. looks like alexander the great's star of the panting. alexander did state that he was a god and not human.


The battle of LA-when the US army fired upon a ufo:
http://www.rense.com/ufo/battleofla.htm

Aliens on the moon:
http://www.alien-ufo-pictures.com/nasa_ufo_pictures.html


A must see downloadable doco. 1.5 hours...GREAT STUFF:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5...q=ufo&hl=en

my dad believes in ufo's to the point where he does my head in everytime he mentions ufo.

there have been movies, news reports, word of mouth etc which have made me wonder if ufo's actually existed, but at the end of the day its all secondary information. i can watch all those old school videos that dad taped from shows like unsolved mysteries and wonders of the world etc but at the end of the day unless i for myself see a "ufo" then i wont believe it.

what can i say im a skeptic when it comes to aliens trying to rid humans of the world.

UFOs came from when America was testing the stealth bomber. They tested it in remote areas and at the time no one had heard of the bomber, so the intelligent folk in the American countryside who were party to having a bomber fly by said they were alien crafts.

Media hype + dumb Americans = UFO spottings. .

Is it coincidence that most UFO sightings till today have been around US military/secret(not secret in their location but in their research and/or production) bases in the US and around the world???

THE TRUTH IS OUTHERE

so the american have been testing stealth bomber for 7 000 years now have they?

Yes, the rumours are 7,000 years old.

The Aliens have been doing drive bys on us for 7,000 years.
Some wogs from an Alien planet in their UFOs playing darude coming by the Milky way for a good ol cruize with their mates.

The UFO rumours gained massive momentum from peasant American farmers at the time the Stealth Bomber was being developed. As the US army were testing them and people called billy-bob and cletus thought they "done gawn n seen a ufo".

I have no reason to doubt Aliens, but UFO sightings are bullshit.
Watch a doco about "believers" in this stuff, they're weird people - they alone are proof these sightings aren't reliable.

Just some stats:

The nearest star is 4 light years away (no known planets around it)

The nearest known solar system with planets is around 30-40 light years!!!

Nearest black hole is greater than 100 light years away

The space shuttle travels at around 30,000km/hr
The Voyager satellite in outer space now travels at around 100,000km/hr (very generous)
Speed of light is 300,000km per SECOND!!!

For around trip to the nearest star (ie 8 light years total)
1. space shuttle= 288,000 yrs
2. Voyager 1= 100,000 yrs!!!
3. space craft travelling 100 times the speed of Voyager= 1000 yrs

Conclusion: These aliens must have a very long life span and a lot of time up their sleeves to waste the best part of upto 1000-100,000 yrs of their lives on a round trip without doing anything special other than the odd "landing"

Also note that a human travelling at the speed of light will have their mass squashed to a size smaller than a grain of sand!!! Try conceptualizing that!!!- How do you know what permanent effects this may have on humans when they stop travelling and their mass "re-expands" to normal!!!

Now try and put UFOs into perspective!!!..........

nice post sam top stuff mate

If the 'aliens' exist, and they are indeed floating around our solar system...then chances are that they got here by traveling at the speed of light....



I just wanted to highlight this and add a bit to it. Your theory is correct....IF the craft was to jump from 0 to the speed of light instantaneous. If the rate of acceleration was steady, then there would be no problem I don't think.
For example....compare a hiundai excel and an r32...if you push the excel your passenger will feel the pull right? Put the same two people in the r32 and push it to it's limit....the rate of acceleration is greater, yes? And therefore you feel it pull harder....BUT...if you are in the r32 and you don't push it to it's limit but you accelerate gradually you don't feel anything. Which means that if you apply the same principle to a craft which has the ability to travel at the speed of light, people within the craft will be unharmed depending on the rate of acceleration.

Here you're wrong... travelling at the speed of light does not obey the same laws of physics. Your mass WILL be squashed!!! ... as to how it would feel, nobody knows cause noone's travelled that fast

Assuming that you're right though, how many YEARS would it take to accelerate to the speed of light????!!!!! And then it would take the same (or similar) time to decelerate- so much for sightings (if you were to argue that they slowed down to be visible, what sort of G-forces would one feel when decelerating from such speed to much more measly "earthly" speeds.... and would they survive this is an other question)

(speed of light= 300,000km per sec OR 1,080,000,000 km per hour; even accelerating at 1000km/hr per sec (as fast or quicker than the acceleration of a just fired bullet) would still take around 125 yrs to reach the speed of light- and we know how it feels to accelerate at 40-50km/hr per sec (just faster than a Grand Prix car)!!! Now multiply this by just under 8 years to to do a round trip to nearest star---> close to 1000 yrs total !!!)

Finally, if aliens were travelling at the speed of light...then thats all one would see from the ground...light (or nothing- as their mass would be toooooo small toidentify or it's energy would be converted to light)

Which brings me to another point...Where and how do they produce enough energy to travel at the speed of light?? How do they do this in a controlled manner? Must be some form of nuclear or atomic energy source where most/virtually all of the energy is converted into kinetic energy (and not wasted heat or sound or other forms of energy)- otherwise there won't be enough energy to even approach the speed of light.....

Anyway... it's all speculation... but just by following such thought processes just raises some elements of doubt, that's all

very well said Samuel

Lol

sam you speak logicly. yet you place a limit on what one can do.
alexander g Bell was told it was impossible to hear someone's voice on the other side of the world, untill it happend.

and secondly who is to say that you need to travel the whole distance to reach somewhere. you wont need to travel lightspeed if somehow you could master a way to bend time or the universe for that matter.

Alexander the Great saw UFOs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQsbP9vpJxk

a UFO landed in my backyard yesterday......

i still cant identify what this flying object was...

So if that the case, why haven't they done the odd landing?

my dad is really into this shit, he believes he saw a ufo in cyprus when he was a wee little boy.
i think he was dillusional.

anyhow there was a documentary in the early 90s that my dad had taped, it was called sightings or something or other. during this documentary a group of people were interviewed because they believed that they were in fact abducted by aliens while they were sleeping. they said that they rose into the ufo through the light beams. they further went on to say that the aliens did something to all the males and had sexual relations with the females. then the males started having sex with eachother or something like that. was the funniest documentary ever.


i think these people had a bit too much weed on this trip and the public were stupid enough to believe them.

Peace of Jesus Christ be with you,

Why do you associate an unidentified flying object with creatures from other planets? UFOs do exist, but they are made right here on earth. It is mainly German technology (around world war II 1930s-40s). The Germans thought that it was aliens that telepathically transmitted the plans for these UFOs. The truth is that it was other beings, but not from a different planet. Rather, these beings which would like everyone to believe they are from a different planet, are the demons against GOD. They will do anything to make man believe that there is no GOD and that evolution is supreme in the universe. That is the common theme with all this new age religion and UFO teaching, as well as universities around the world (evolution is their god; who do you think controls what is taught in universities?). By achieving this simple goal, they have removed the LORD GOD of the universe from the minds and hearts of men and with that have prevented the belief of mankind in the truth and its salvation. Just type in the word vril in google and see what comes up. Don't be fooled by the "mediums" and such that explain that aliens transmitted this technology; they are merely fools of satan and his demons. There is two sources of knowledge for a man, one is from GOD, the other from the adversary (enemy of GOD and HIS creation, man). Aliens do not exist! The technology is quite simple once one knows and understands some general laws of the universe (as the LORD created them, and which the Angels and demons know); you will not find them in physics books, they are all misleading.
Ask your farther to read the bible and stop believing lies. If he still doesn't believe you, tell him i will come around and visit him one day when i get enough time and money to build one. But i dont have a german accent!
So what about the aliens? where did they find those bodies ? Well sadly, there is a secret society of evil in the world (illuminaty, masonics, etc.) They control the whole planet and decide what happens where and how. They also worship satan directly (as do the elite secret society of the secret religion within a religion...anyone know who i'm talking about?). They amass the worlds knowledge and keep it hidden, and replace truth with fiction. The bodies they did/have found are actually genetically engineered humans. The abductions are real, they need to get the human embryos/eggs/sperm from somewhere...they don't use their own , they pick others to rob. That is why the so called aliens resemble the human form so well. Others have been made hybrid, so that they can incorporate flesh of man with the biology of a plant. Thus they metabolise like a plant, needing sunlight and water and trace minerals etc. But they all originated from human embryos.
So who do you think controls the world? Do yourself a favor, go and check out the Washington white house street pattern (use google earth or utube it). It is the sign of satan (pentagram), and his headquarters (whitehouse) is in the center!

There is but ONE GOD , and the HOLY TRINITY is HE. The GOD of the UNIVERSE is HIS name and there is nothing unjust in HIM!
Glory be unto the FATHER and to the SON and to the HOLY SPIRIT.