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> Turkey Recalls Ambassador After Us Vote On Armenian 'genocide'
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post Oct 12 2007, 01:49 PM
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Turkey recalled its ambassador from Washington last night in repsonse to a US Congressional decision to label the First World War-era killings of Armenians as genocide.

Despite intense lobbying by Turkey and a last-gasp intervention by the US President George Bush, the House Foreign Affairs Committee passed the bill on Wednesday by a 27-21 vote – in a move seen as an insult by most Turks.

Turkey's Foreign ministry said the ambassador would return to Turkey for a stay of "a week or 10 days". "We are not withdrawing our ambassador," said a ministry spokesman Levent Bilman. "We have asked him to come to Turkey for some consultations."

In a statement yesterday, the Turkish government condemned the vote: "It is not possible to accept such an accusation of a crime which was never committed by the Turkish nation".

"27 foolish Americans," ran the front page of the Turkish daily Vatan, in reference to legislators who voted in favour of the bill. Hurriyet called the resolution a "Bill of hatred".

President Abdullah Gόl said: "Unfortunately, some politicians in the US have once again sacrificed important matters to petty domestic politics despite all calls to common sense."

Members of the left-wing Workers' Party laid a black wreath in front of the US Embassy building in Ankara and drew a crescent-and-star on its wall in protest at the resolution.

The vote was a body-blow to attempts by politicians and diplomats behind the scenes in Washington and Ankara to put Turkish-American relations back on a normal footing. The two countries have been on bad terms since March 2003 when a group of rebels in the ruling AKP (Justice and Development Party) joined with the opposition to thwart government attempts to get authority for Turkey to support the invasion of Iraq from the north. A few months later, parliament reversed its decision but by then the US was no longer interested in support from the Turks.

Over the past three years, hard-line conservatives in the US administration have not forgiven the Turks for not doing what the US expects of an ally. Turkish public opinion, horrified by the nearby violence in Iraq, has been equally uncomplimentary with TV dramas and novels attacking the US enjoying an enthusiastic reception.

Yet in both countries, many politicians have been searching for ways to mend the damage, believing that the two countries need each other. Both Mr Gόl, while serving as Foreign minister, and the Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan have made several visits to Washington.

Apart from leading to a squeeze on US use of the Incirlik base in Turkey and air and surface transit, the resolution could open the way for a Turkish military incursion into Iraq to halt PKK attacks on targets in south-east Turkey creating confrontation between Turkey and the US.

Sixteen Turkish soldiers have died in the past week in south-east Turkey as a result of PKK attacks. Several hundred more have been killed since the US-led invasion of Iraq which was followed by a revival of the PKK's fortunes.

Against this background, the resolution could be the straw which broke the camel's back for Turkish-US relations. There are several strands to the Turkish refusal to tolerate even a non-binding Congressional resolution. They include national resentment at what is seen as a climate of institutional prejudice against Turkey in Western societies; anger at the assassination of more than 40 Turkish diplomats by Armenians in the 1970s and 1980s; the expulsion of 800,000 to 1 million Azerbaijani Muslims from their homes in the Caucasus in the 1990s by Armenian nationalist forces; and suspicion that compensation claims may follow some day. Around half of Turkey's population are the descendants of Muslims forced out of what are now Christian lands and regard Western partiality for Armenians as outrageous.

Attitudes are unlikely to soften. News of the vote coincided with reports that two Turkish Armenians, Arat Dink and Serkis Seropian, had been given one-year suspended jail sentences in in Istanbul for "belittling Turkishness" in an Istanbul Armenian-language newspaper.

Mr Erdogan's riposte to Washington has been to ask parliament for powers to send Turkish troops into Iraq. If recent PKK attacks continue, pressure to act will be hard to resist, not least since a Turkish-US confrontation would be popular in parts of the Muslim world as well as at home. Even if an incursion into Iraq can be avoided, prospects for getting the Turkish-US partnership back into working order look more distant than ever, a fact which will hamper Western chances of restoring stability in the Middle East.


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post Oct 12 2007, 04:02 PM
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It is shameful that President George Bush had urged the US House of Reps not to call for the Resolution that calls the 1915 massacre by Ottoman Turks as Genocide

What does this mean? Well it's like George Bush saying that the Nazi's did not commit genocide because he might piss off the German Government.

George Bush is happy to Call it a massacre but doesn't want to call it a genocide because he might piss off Turkey even though the World knows that it was one of the biggest Genocide's in history.

Turkey Recalling it's ambassador for a week is laughable. It's their scare tactics, just like with the banning of YOUTUBE for a day.

America has a convenient good relationship with Turkey to suit it's own interests. It does not care what is right or wrong, as long as their interests are served in the middle east.

Lets hope in November that this resolution is passed and that America Congress recognizes that Turkey has committed the Worst Genocide on any race.


Here is good article from Kansas city Star:

Turkey’s belligerent attitude threatens relations with West

Someone needs to tell the irresponsible Turkish government to calm down and halt its attacks on northern Iraq.

That someone is President Bush. This week, however, Bush showed only weakness and timidity in the face of Ankara’s aggressive bluster.

The United States should expect better from an ostensible ally.

Turkey’s over-the-top campaign against Kurdish separatism has already destroyed hundreds of villages and killed thousands within its own borders.

Now Turkey is shelling and bombing Kurdish areas in northern Iraq, and threatening to launch ground attacks in force. That would bring chaos to what has been the most stable and thriving part of Iraq.

In addition, the Turks are throwing another temper tantrum over how Americans choose to describe the Ottoman Empire’s many atrocities against the Armenians a century ago.

Hundreds of thousands of Armenians were killed in the late 1800s, and perhaps a million lost their lives in the midst of World War I.

But the Turks want to quibble with the term “genocide” — so much so that they commanded Bush to drop everything else this week and rush to defend the good name of the Ottoman Empire on Capitol Hill.

That empire was one of America’s enemies in World War I, incidentally, so it seems particularly unreasonable to expect our president to help whitewash its ghastly record.

“Genocide” was the blunt term that President Ronald Reagan used. But Bush, kowtowing to Ankara, urges U.S. lawmakers not to approve a measure that uses the word.

Turkey wants closer ties to the West and has long yearned for membership in the European Union.

So U.S.-Turkish relations should not be a one-way street. If the Turks want our continued friendship, they need to act more like friends — and stop their attacks into a country where we have more than enough problems already.



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post Oct 13 2007, 11:38 AM
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Turkey committed the first acts of Genocide of the 20th century. Why should anyone even think twice about this bill that is long overdue. They still havent recognised the Turkish genocide on the Pontian Greeks. Even today, Christians are treated as second class citizens in Turkey and that is only beginning to change because they want EU membership. Anyone acting in an "UnTurkish" way is breaking the law in that fucked up CUNTry. So in other words....U must rape and kill any non Turks and non Muslims, start fires in any minority groups areas so as not to give them much power, take multiple wives, have sex with young boys (something that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk was known to do), and generally exist as lower sub-human life, while trying your hardest to bring the rest of the world down with you.
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post Oct 13 2007, 02:24 PM
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Turkey, a country of 60 million people, are losing to the PKK which has 3000 fighters, many of these PKK fighters are women. Turkish soldiers are weak. Greece's special forces would defeat 250 thousand Turkish soldiers!!! Turks are sheep herders that's all they are good for they should stick to herding sheep.

The PKK now plans to launch attacks deep in Turkey and assassinate members of the AK Party. Turkey will never defeat th PKK!! Their leaders will get assassinated and the PKK will never give up their struggle.


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