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paulii
post Mar 18 2008, 08:04 PM
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Ok for hospitality - we are doing culture groups and social diversity..
We were given a very short task on any culture group to research - Of course ive done greece lmao

So tell me if this sounds ok

it includes
greetings
gestures
food eaten
recreation
personal apperence..


Melbourne, Australia, is the 3rd largest city in the world to be home to such a large number of Greeks.
Greeks in their own right have their own socially diverse tradition and history spanning from thousands of years ago. Having been a civilization for so long, the food has obviously had ample time to evolve for the better and has nutritionally grown as well.

As many Greeks will tell you, the Greek language is a very rich language and when a native speaker is in action, it is often also accompanied by a rich variety of facial and hand gestures. These serve both consciously and unconsciously, to give emphasis to that which is being said, or can be used on their own as a non-verbal response. Greeks are known as champion gesture users in the Mediterranean. Their hands, bodies and faces are rarely still and it sometimes seems possible to get the gist of a conversation by watching it from 50 meters away.

When Greeks gather for occasions, or even everyday, greetings are always the same. It is expected the men, woman and children will always give each other a kiss on either check. Sometimes the men will shake hands as this represents connection, unity and a sign of love and compassion.

Greeks speak with passion and enthusiasm, when they do so they use a lot of body and hand movements. When speaking, the thumb, index and middle finger are together and shaken if in a deep conversation and a point is wanting to be proved.

The Mediterranean diet is an extremely popular diet because it equally balances all nutrients the body needs in order to function at optimum peak. The common Mediterranean dietary pattern has these characteristics:
• high consumption of fruits, vegetables, bread, wheat, potatoes, beans, legumes, nuts and seeds
• olive oil is an important monounsaturated fat source
• dairy products, fish and poultry are consumed in low to moderate amounts, and little red meat is eaten
• eggs are consumed zero to four times a week
• wine is consumed in low to moderate amounts.

Greeks are still one of the only cultures that consume all these food groups within the space of a week, this also aids in the longetivity of these people.
Greeks are argued to be very laid back people, and to some extent, this is very true. On most days, especially in the summer, you will rarely find a Greek at home, their nights are spent at the local “Tarvena” by the sea slowly sipping “Ouzo” (a strong spirit) and talking about politics and other issues. This is the normal routine of a Greek

• Wake up early in the morning to their coffee and cigarette.
• 9.00am work starts, and by 2.00pm – 2.30pm work ends for the day
• Come home for lunch – their main meal of the day.
• Followed by siesta. This is a short nap during the afternoon, typically after lunch to recuperate from the day, Siesta’s are more popular in countries where the weather is warm.
• 5pm – wake up.
• All get ready to head into town or the local Tarvena for a drink to catch up with friends, gossip ect.
• 11pm – 12pm they all come home and go to bed ready to follow the routine once again.

Greeks view their appearance extremely important. There has always been a social rule in Europe that when one leaves their house, they must look their best. Wherever you go in Greece, whether it’s down to the local milk bar or even just casually going for a walk, nice and modern clothes are always worn. Money is not an option when buying clothes, some of the youth even on minimum wage, will have some sort of designer label clothes or accessories in their possession.


What do u think can be changed? Added?

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post Mar 19 2008, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE (paulii @ Mar 18 2008, 09:04 PM) *
Ok for hospitality - we are doing culture groups and social diversity..
We were given a very short task on any culture group to research - Of course ive done greece lmao

So tell me if this sounds ok

it includes
greetings
gestures
food eaten
recreation
personal apperence..


Melbourne, Australia, is the 3rd largest city in the world to be home to such a large number of Greeks. - actually its not. Chicago is the third largest city with greek population, they have areound 300,000 greeks, almost 3 times what we have in melbourne. the truth is melbourne is the third largest greek SPEAKING country, meaning those greeks in canada dont know how to speak greek - but we do.

Greeks in their own right have their own socially diverse tradition and history spanning from thousands of years ago. Having been a civilization for so long, the food has obviously had ample time to evolve for the better and has nutritionally grown as well. -you must mention that the food 'evolved' because of influences from the middle east and various other areas, due to the greeks living all over the place, and from ethnic cleansing (ie, greeks were sent back to greece - and brought along alot of traditions and foods etc)

As many Greeks will tell you, the Greek language is a very rich language and when a native speaker is in action, it is often also accompanied by a rich variety of facial and hand gestures. These serve both consciously and unconsciously, to give emphasis to that which is being said, or can be used on their own as a non-verbal response. Greeks are known as champion gesture users in the Mediterranean. - doesnt make sence, try re wording that Their hands, bodies and faces are rarely still and it sometimes seems possible to get the gist of a conversation by watching it from 50 meters away.

When Greeks gather for occasions, or even everyday, greetings are always the same. It is expected the men, woman and children will always give each other a kiss on either check. Sometimes the men will shake hands as this represents connection, unity and a sign of love and compassion.

Greeks speak with passion and enthusiasm, when they do so they use a lot of body and hand movements. When speaking, the thumb, index and middle finger are together and shaken if in a deep conversation and a point is wanting to be proved. - this should be moved up before the greetings section as it relates to the gesturing

The Mediterranean diet is an extremely popular diet because it equally balances all nutrients the body needs in order to function at optimum peak. The common Mediterranean dietary pattern has these characteristics:
• high consumption of fruits, vegetables, bread, wheat, potatoes, beans, legumes, nuts and seeds
• olive oil is an important monounsaturated fat source
• dairy products, fish and poultry are consumed in low to moderate amounts, and little red meat is eaten
• eggs are consumed zero to four times a week
• wine is consumed in low to moderate amounts.

Greeks are still one of the only cultures that consume all these food groups within the space of a week, this also aids in the longetivity of these people.
Greeks are argued to be very laid back people, and to some extent, this is very true. On most days, especially in the summer, you will rarely find a Greek at home, their nights are spent at the local “Tarvena” by the sea slowly sipping “Ouzo” (a strong spirit) and talking about politics and other issues. This is the normal routine of a Greek

• Wake up early in the morning to their coffee and cigarette.
• 9.00am work starts, and by 2.00pm – 2.30pm work ends for the day
• Come home for lunch – their main meal of the day.
• Followed by siesta. This is a short nap during the afternoon, typically after lunch to recuperate from the day, Siesta’s are more popular in countries where the weather is warm.
• 5pm – wake up.
• All get ready to head into town or the local Tarvena for a drink to catch up with friends, gossip ect.
• 11pm – 12pm they all come home and go to bed ready to follow the routine once again.

Greeks view their appearance extremely important. There has always been a social rule in Europe that when one leaves their house, they must look their best. Wherever you go in Greece, whether it’s down to the local milk bar or even just casually going for a walk, nice and modern clothes are always worn. Money is not an option when buying clothes, some of the youth even on minimum wage, will have some sort of designer label clothes or accessories in their possession.


What do u think can be changed? Added?

Ok, did you say you were in year 11?
I think you need to use so reliable sources because alot of what you said is steroetyping Greeks and thats not right. Eg, not everyone wakes up and has coffee with a cigarette.
work doesnt end up 2pm, they simple have a long lunch break usual 2-3 hours and go back to work at around 3 untill about 6/7 Depending on what industry your in.
They dont head into town every night, and siesta is not usually that long for a working person.

i think that last bit about dressing and appearance is only comon with stuck up city folk, not everyone is like that, so maybe u should define that this is more common in the larger cities? Upto you.

Hope that helps. =]
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post Mar 20 2008, 10:06 PM
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shorty thank you so so much..
yeah im year 11.

I know its really rushed, he gave us that essay on tuesday and wanted it on wednesday.

really appreciate it smile.gif
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actually its not. Chicago is the third largest city with greek population, they have areound 300,000 greeks, almost 3 times what we have in melbourne. the truth is melbourne is the third largest greek SPEAKING country, meaning those greeks in canada dont know how to speak greek - but we do.



Shorty, Greece does have the 3rd largest Greek population in the world.

Melbourne doesn't have 100,000 Greeks, it has at least 300,000.... The Australian government website says there's about 300,000 Greeks in Melbourne ( http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/greece/greece_country_brief.html ).


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i recently went 2 melbourne n we asked sum guy from the greek orthodox community thing ??? thevery same question n he said that it is just politics n that there are cities in greece eg. patra that probably have more.
btw its "3rd largest population of greek speakers in one cty"

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Shorty, Greece does have the 3rd largest Greek population in the world.

Melbourne doesn't have 100,000 Greeks, it has at least 300,000.... The Australian government website says there's about 300,000 Greeks in Melbourne ( http://www.dfat.gov.au/geo/greece/greece_country_brief.html ).

whatever the figures are, there are almost 3 times the amount of Greeks in Chicago. there is no questioning that. my lecturer told us, and he has done research on the topic, he showed us the appropriate documents.
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whatever the figures are, there are almost 3 times the amount of Greeks in Chicago. there is no questioning that. my lecturer told us, and he has done research on the topic, he showed us the appropriate documents.



If Chicago had 3 times the amount of Greeks that Melbourne does, that means Chicago would have 900,000 Greeks which is clearly not true, as Chicago's population is only 2.8 million. wink.gif

Chicago's Greek population is about 50,000 according to the ''Pan-Hellenic students association of Chicago''.
http://chicago.agrino.org/greek_town.htm smile.gif

Also, I don't mean to be a smart-ass or rude, but I wouldn't beleive everything your lecture or ''professor'' says at La Trobe, as quite a few of the Greek studies lectures at La Trobe are not fully qualified teachers- however a few, not all so don't think of them all in the same light.
Tell you lecturer he is wrong tongue.gif wink.gif

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vre de ma 'kous, im not going to sit here arguing with you, IV SEEN THE DOCUMENTS im using them in my assesment, and they are approved... i dont trust any of your non scholarly resources. and my professor is qualified, as all the lecturors at la trobe are. there are only 4 or 5 in the greek studies department, iv had 4 and they all have adequate teaching qualifications.

they can claim however many people they want, but the truth is there are a larger amount of greeks in chicago than in melbourne, doesnt mean they all speak greek or practice the culture, they are still or greek origin with greek names.
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vre de ma 'kous, im not going to sit here arguing with you, IV SEEN THE DOCUMENTS im using them in my assesment,


I'm not trying to argue with you, it's a forum, a nice discussion is allowed.
What type of documents are these?

As I said, if Chicago's had three times the Greek population of Melbourne, that means the Greek population of Chicago would be 900,000. Now 900,000 Greeks out of 2.8 million people in Chicago is obviously not true.

As I said, ''Pan-Hellenic students association of Chicago'' claims 50,000, so do a few other sites.



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and my professor is qualified, as all the lecturors at la trobe are. there are only 4 or 5 in the greek studies department, iv had 4 and they all have adequate teaching qualifications.


your professor is qualifed?
How do you know that? Because he says he is? Or has a fake certificate?
Do you realise that recently in the paper, a La Trobe uni head of something, said several of the Greek teachers at La Trobe as not being actual qualified lectures?
Not saying your lectures is not one, but there are a few that are not actually fully qualified.

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your professor is qualifed?
How do you know that? Because he says he is? Or has a fake certificate?
Do you realise that recently in the paper, a La Trobe uni head of something, said several of the Greek teachers at La Trobe as not being actual qualified lectures?
Not saying your lectures is not one, but there are a few that are not actually fully qualified.

and then you obviously didn't see or hear La Trobe's official media response saying all these claims were untrue?

The media lies, you don't even go to La Trobe, you wouldn't even know about the situation. And even if they were true, at least they are doing something to educated people on Greek studies, unlike some universities who refuse to start up a Greek studies program.

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i thought the only way to be lecturer you must be qualified ? blink.gif
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QUOTE (paulii @ Mar 25 2008, 09:23 PM) *
i thought the only way to be lecturer you must be qualified ? blink.gif


when it comes to uni's runnign things, yes.

When it comes to Greeks running things, no wink.gif tongue.gif


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